# Addition of LunaX as collateral on Anchor **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [April 21, 2022, 5:35am UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453 "2022-04-21T05:35:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![agajjala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@agajjala](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/agajjala)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 5:35am UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/1 "2022-04-21T05:35:44Z")
Key Contents: 1. Summary 2. Details about Stader and LunaX 3. Validator pool for LunaX 4. Governance for LunaX stakers **1. Summary** - Stader proposes addition of LunaX as collateral to Anchor protocol. Here are the benefits for Anchor and key stakeholders in the Terra ecosystem. 1. Alternative Luna collateral on Anchor, providing choice for Anchor users and increasing decentralization 2. Anchor borrowers (using LunaX) earn Luna staking rewards and air drops 3. Reduce risk for Anchor from reliance on a single pool 4. Retain governance rights while enjoying the benefits of Liquid staking (Phase 2) **Detailed Proposal:** **2. Stader Introduction:** - Stader background: Stader’s smart contracts launched on Terra on Nov 20th and we already have: - LunaX: Over 15k wallets are staking with LunaX contracts and over ~1.9 M Luna is staked with LunaX. Additionally: - LunaX contracts are open sourced and have been audited thrice by reputed audit firms incl. Halborn, Certik and Z-institute. [Here](https://github.com/stader-labs/stader-liquid-token) is the link to Github with all audit reports. - We have a 5 on 8 multisig for LunaX Admin composed of distinct individuals/ entities highlighted below: **3. Validator pool for LunaX:** - Currently, LunaX pool has 20 validators. Will be expanded to 35+ by mid-May. - Stader’s validator selection for Stake Pools is based on stringent and transparent performance criteria including: - We will additionally add the following criteria to the next set including: - Stader’s KYV ([Know Your Validator](https://stader-dashboards.web.app/)) solution tracks key validator performance data including Up time, Oracle commits, APR, commission changes etc. Validators’ performance will be reviewed monthly and the pool will be rebalanced accordingly. **4. Governance for LunaX stakers (Phase 2)** In Phase 2 (timeline will be shared later), Stader will create a proxy-vote contract capable of aggregating votes for its LunaX and associated partner contracts and finally, in a programmatic & time-sensitive manner, will cast the aggregated vote. Stader will _always_ vote thereby amplifying the participation of stakers in governance. For details on governance: [Link](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jRgayd1ShyFkSdRzLkYSGdc0J0NWeYwrDHD3U9iLE60/edit) Look forward to receiving feedback from Anchor and Terra community. ---
**Author:** ![12hrly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/c2a13f/32.png) [@12hrly](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/12hrly)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 6:19am UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/2 "2022-04-21T06:19:58Z")
no-brainer this. an easy slam dunk. let’s vote. ---
**Author:** ![Kentag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9fc348/32.png) [@Kentag](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/Kentag)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 6:39am UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/3 "2022-04-21T06:39:36Z")
Finally an additional Terra asset on Anchor. It’s always good to have diverse options as collateral. Although off-topic, LTV for this asset should be higher than bLuna given that the yield is added to the token value. How do we plan to fund Anchor Earn with assets like these though? ---
**Author:** ![atebites](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@atebites](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/atebites)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/4 "2022-04-21T13:45:15Z")
I am freaking dying for Lunax and mSOL on Anchor. I want 80% LTV on lunax please while we’re at it. ---
**Author:** ![Niftyspaces](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Niftyspaces](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/Niftyspaces)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/5 "2022-04-21T15:19:30Z")
Great proposal… would love to see LunaX on Anchor ---
**Author:** ![fig](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.anchorprotocol.com/fig/32/259_2.png) [@fig](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/fig)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/6 "2022-04-21T16:45:03Z")
Seems to compliment the sAVAX proposal / collateral onboarding. While I am not sure of the amount of TVL it will drive, LunaX will add additional flexibility for the Anchor end-user and works as easy marketing for both Anchor and Stader. Willing to support this proposal if the team deems the risks of adding a liquid staking token safe. ---
**Author:** ![Spaydh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.anchorprotocol.com/spaydh/32/1140_2.png) [@Spaydh](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/Spaydh)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 9:36am UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/7 "2022-04-22T09:36:18Z")
Hey everyone, **Quick disclaimer: I work at Lido, so my opinion might be biased. I’m writing this on my own behalf though, and the following opinions are my own only.** - I think adding LunaX to Anchor is a no-brainer, especially with the upcoming completion of the move towards Anchor V2. - I would recommend listing LunaX with a `Max LTV` of 0.6 (60%) pending [the migration of the LunaX \<\> Luna pool to Astroport](https://forum.astroport.fi/t/arc-3-lunax-luna-pool-addition-to-astroport-with-dual-incentives/168/23). Dual incentives from Stader and Astroport should help dramatically increase the depth of liquidity. - Once LunaX liquidity reaches a level [roughly similar to bLuna’s at the time its LTV was raised](http://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/raise-bluna-ltv-to-80/2094/29), a new governance proposal should be drafted to raise the `Max LTV` parameter to 0.8 (80%). I will support such a proposal. ---
**Author:** ![VelociLaptor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/48db29/32.png) [@VelociLaptor](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/VelociLaptor)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/8 "2022-04-22T20:05:41Z")
This is the end of bLUNA then? Why would anyone pay their staking rewards to the protocol when they could keep and autocompound instead? I am supportive, but this won’t exactly help the yield reserve. Is there a higher interest rate for non yield bearing collateral or does the yield now repay the loan? ---
**Author:** ![eddiestone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/aca169/32.png) [@eddiestone](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/eddiestone)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/9 "2022-04-22T20:16:08Z")
I think this is an awesome idea ---
**Author:** ![NFTxDeFi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.anchorprotocol.com/nftxdefi/32/824_2.png) [@NFTxDeFi](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/NFTxDeFi)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/10 "2022-04-23T00:02:13Z")
The borrow side of the Anchor protocol must move in the direction of additional sources of collateral to help flatten the yield reserve. LunaX is a great option to add as collateral. Support the proposal wholeheartedly. ---
**Author:** ![LesF.Goh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@LesF.Goh](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/LesF.Goh)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 8:10am UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/11 "2022-04-23T08:10:48Z")
If this passes, though, what’s the point of bLuna anymore? I can’t imagine anyone would want to use it. LunaX yield substitutes bLuna yield as collateral, i suppose, and derived yield from LunaX goes toward earn reserve? I don’t like the centralisation factor here, where voting power in the ecosystem increasingly gets diverted to validators which Stader Labs approves of. I of course trust Stader, but I’m still uncomfortable with this… ---
**Author:** ![Koenna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@Koenna](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/Koenna)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 8:14am UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/12 "2022-04-23T08:14:08Z")
Definitely a good step towards more collateral options and therefor more income streams for Anchor. I don’t agree with a high max. LTV under the current V1 borrow model: There is the risk of substantial amounts of bluna leaving and being converted/replaced with LunaX. That would actually reduce the income from Luna as a collateral. We should carefully define a middle ground for users and the sustainability of the protocol. Under V1 conditions I would be in favor of a max LTV of 60%. Bluna will have some advantage because of the high LTV for Degens and LunaX combines both use cases of auto-compounding asset and the ability to safely collateralize it. With V2 coming this could be adjusted to the same LTV for bluna and LunaX alike. The centralization around LunaX needs to be discussed in detail and I‘m not fully informed about their Delegators, numbers and centralization yet. ---
**Author:** ![AgilePatryk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.anchorprotocol.com/agilepatryk/32/517_2.png) [@AgilePatryk](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/AgilePatryk)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 12:23pm UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/13 "2022-04-23T12:23:34Z")
There are w few areas to inspect here - some of which require clarifications IMO. 1. Decentralisation bLUNA is currently the main collateral in Anchor. LunaX is another form of liquid staking derivative of LUNA, which lessens reliability on LIDO’s infrastructure, contracts and validator set. That is obviously good. 2. max LTV I concur with what @Spaydh mentioned - we should not propose the same maxLTV for LunaX as we have for bLUNA. At least: not at the very beginning. bLUNA-LUNA LP on Astroport is a stableswap pool with $700m of liquidity and [an Astroport gov-vote](https://app.astroport.fi/governance/proposal/2) is underway (not for long though: 38 mins left at the time of writing with 99.83% in favor) to increase the scale amplification factor in Astroport, which would further concentrate liquidity around 1:1 ratio. In comparison, LunaX-LUNA LP on Terraswap is a xy=k pool with $117m of liquidity. In case of liquidations and (potential) selling pressure, that provides for a much smaller cushion that the bLUNA-LUNA LP does. maxLTV 60% + possible increase to 80% once migration to Astroport stableswap model is completed seems to be a good idea. Even better: increase to maxLTV 80% only after [new type of pool is implemented on Astroport](https://forum.astroport.fi/t/thoughts-on-a-new-type-of-pool-for-assets-such-has-stluna-luna/406) that would let concentrated liquidity follow a price-point that moves in time (ideal for xTOKEN-TOKEN type of pools). Otherwise, with increasing LunaX : LUNA ratio the price would go further and further away from 1:1 ratio where liquidity is concentrated, turning stableswap into “xy=k”-like pool again. 3. Interest In case of bLUNA, staking rewards are swapped to UST and captured by Anchor Protocol. The proposal doesn’t say anything about how borrowing would work with LunaX. Would the protocol chip away at LunaX at the pace of staking APR (so as to keep the amount of underlying LUNA constant)? Or would the borrow rate be increased by the LunaX APR instead, while allowing collateral to compound? More details are needed here. ---
**Author:** ![Spaydh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.anchorprotocol.com/spaydh/32/1140_2.png) [@Spaydh](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/Spaydh)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/14 "2022-04-23T12:57:03Z")
Hey @AgilePatryk, good to see we have similar thoughts! I was wondering how to incorporate an auto compounding token within Anchor’s current frame of work too, so I had a look at the sAvax listing and I think [@bitn8’s comment](http://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/proposal-savax-collateral-onboarding/3279/34) is relevant here. Afaik, the protocol won’t chip away at the collateral, nor will the collateral have its own interest rate: rather, once all legacy collateral types (bLUNA and bETH) have been replaced with ledger token liquid staking derivatives (stLuna and wewstETH), then the interest rate for borrowing UST on Anchor will adjust upwards to reflect the new model. Please, correct me if I got something wrong. ---
**Author:** ![AgilePatryk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.anchorprotocol.com/agilepatryk/32/517_2.png) [@AgilePatryk](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/AgilePatryk)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/15 "2022-04-23T13:18:34Z")
Thanks for linking that comment of @bitn8. I believe I understood it the same way. Go-to model is: - mainly auto-compounding LSDs as collateral - no staking rewards taken away by Anchor Protocol - overall borrow interest rate increased and will not depend on the collateral type provided @bitn8’s comment on Anchor being quite expensive to borrow from is spot-on too. Farmer D Brown every now and then reminds us on Twitter that actual cost to borrow on Anchor is pretty darn high… ---
**Author:** ![Spaydh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.anchorprotocol.com/spaydh/32/1140_2.png) [@Spaydh](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/Spaydh)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/16 "2022-04-23T13:43:26Z")
Well yeah, I think it’s a question of perspective too. Early DeFi lending/borrowing platforms had huge opportunity cost on top of the borrow rates (no staking rewards) but users were not factoring these costs in. Then Anchor came around and actually levied that cashflow: great idea! The protocol was making money out of something nobody was really caring about anyway. Ironically, I think that contributed to raise awareness about the staking yield, which now makes it seems like Anchor is prohibitively expensive due to its high Earn APY. ---
**Author:** ![vonsharpe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c0e974/32.png) [@vonsharpe](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/vonsharpe)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/17 "2022-04-25T19:57:04Z")
Adding assets like LunaX will change Anchor’s model as the protocol will not receive the yield from staked assets to help subsidize the platform. I would support adding LunaX as collateral on Mars, but not Anchor. ---
**Author:** ![bitn8](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.anchorprotocol.com/bitn8/32/61_2.png) [@bitn8](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/bitn8)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/18 "2022-04-25T20:10:50Z")
The model is changing to be more capital efficient. We currently don’t take sAVAX staking rewards. We have some new changes coming in a soon-to-be-announced v2.1 model that will allow LUNA borrowing and swapping on the back end to get LSDs to retain the staking rewards for the protocol. In short, LUNAx is a great addition for many reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Chiraag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dbc845/32.png) [@Chiraag](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/Chiraag)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/19 "2022-04-25T21:17:17Z")
Auto compounding LSD. Sounds intense 😃 ---
**Author:** ![AgilePatryk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.anchorprotocol.com/agilepatryk/32/517_2.png) [@AgilePatryk](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/u/AgilePatryk)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453/20 "2022-04-27T14:15:42Z")
v2.1 model… please ser, I need more info… [Next page](https://forum.anchorprotocol.com/t/addition-of-lunax-as-collateral-on-anchor/4453.md?page=2)